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Why Love and Logic Has it Wrong

I read with interest, Love and Logic’s Jedd Hafer’s entry in this week’s newsletter to parents in regards to handling sibling rivalry. The one thing that he stated that I agree with is that the argument belongs to the children, not the parents.  I even support his position that the adult caregivers should state the obvious to the kids by saying, “It sounds like you guys are having a problem (getting along) and it will be interesting to see how you solve it.”  But where Mr. Hafer has it wrong in my opinion, is in his suggestion for what to do if the kids don’t solve it quickly and the parents have to get involved.  He suggests that parents could charge each child $1 for each minute that the arguing goes on.  We know that discipline is a variation of the word “disciple,” which means "to teach."  So what are parents teaching their children by charging them money for something that is a normal part of developing sibling relationships?  And what if one child has no money to pay the penalty?  Then what?  Mr. Hafer then suggests that it is an acceptable alternative for parents to assign their own chores to children to do as a result of the arguing.  The lesson being delivered by this advice is that the arguing is wrong and deserves punishment in the form of a monetary penalty or hard labor. 

Taking a different approach to this challenge, pediatrician Dr. William Sears writes in his book, “The Successful Child,” that arguing is a normal part of growing up with siblings and parents should not intervene in minor squabbles.  If the conflict grows to a larger eruption, the parent’s job is to help each child express his or her feelings to the other in a more civil tone and in a way that can be understood.  In my Love, Limits, & Lessons® program for parents, I suggest that an explosive argument between siblings is an expression that they have had enough of each other and may both need a break.  Moving each child to a different area to calm down is not the same as sending them to timeout, but simply a way to give them an opportunity to cool off a bit until they are ready to communicate more effectively. 

Managing arguments between siblings should not call for gimmicks, nor should it call for punitive actions against the children for something that is normal.  If the arguing is difficult for the adults to deal with and ear plugs are doing the trick, then it’s time for the parents to offer some conflict resolution guidance.  And if that isn’t working or the parents aren’t equipped to do the training, then a consequence may be in order.  But the consequence must be tied directly to the arguing, such as a cooling off period, not money or an adult's chores.

6 Comments to Why Love and Logic Has it Wrong:

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Larry Bumpus on Thursday, October 27, 2011 6:26 AM
I wholeheartedly agree will Bill's response and suggestions.
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Dorene Zhulkovsky on Thursday, October 27, 2011 4:22 PM
My children argue and have disagreements frequently. It is hard to listen to them fight and it even saddens me how hurtful they can be to one another. I follow Love, Limits, & Lessons by validating and mirroring that they are not getting along, and that I have confidence in their ability to solve their problems on their own. Especially if they come to me with "Mommy he did this" or "Mommy she did that" I remind them that I know that they can solve their own problems. Of course I make sure that this reply is age appropriate and that no one is getting physically hurt. If my guidance is needed I get down to their level and try to help them express what they are feeling and/need to their sibling. I remind them not to use bad words, name calling or accusations from the past - because that does not contribute to the solution. I try to separate my feelings of what should happen or what I think is fair so that they will come up with their own solution. Fighting in the car is another problem. Fighting in the car is dangerous and when it happens I do not say a word to my kids. I pull over and wait for them to stop. We set up this rule in advance of no screaming shouting or fighting in the car. This is a safety issue and without a lecture I stop and wait, when they calm down and stop I start the car again and go on my way. I do feel "drained" after they have argued, however that is my problem and I need to replenish my batteries and not teach my children that they are responsible for my well being or that they are the cause of me being tiered. Parenting is difficult and you will feel drained at the end of the day - that is life and making children to even think or feel that their problems are too much for their parents to handle to the extent that they need to pay monetarily or by doing my adult chores is a very miss guided way to teach parents how to handle every day problems. Dorene
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Jennifer on Thursday, January 19, 2012 8:56 AM
Bill what do you do to if in the childrens arguement one child is using inappropriate words and putting the other child down with very negative remarks? When I correct that out of line child she yells at me "I hate you" "I wish I could stay in school so I wasnt here with you", very hurtful things to me for correction her inapporpriate words and feelings toward her sibling. I need your advice please.
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Bill Corbett on Sunday, January 29, 2012 3:23 PM
Hi Jennifer. I'm sorry that I'm just now seeing this message you left here on my blog. Thank you for taking the time to post. As a parent, you have 2 important things to do with this situation; one is to figure out why she is so angry that she is willing to violate your boundary on the use of the word (assuming you set this up as a boundary in advance) and to work on understanding her anger, and the other is to set up a consequence whenever ANYONE (not just her) uses inappropriate language while fighting and to follow through with this logical consequence as soon as it occurs. Going back to your first objective, you have to determine what is at the core of her anger toward her sibling and using profanity. If she is angry about any adult chaos going on in the home between you and another adult (such as her father) or anything related, then this behavior from her could be her way of reacting to what's going on. If that's the case, then you must avoid getting angry with her and work on your relationship to bring her closer to you, not push her further away. You have to understand that parental discord is a direct threat to a child’s attachment to the primary caregiver. This can cause that child to go into a mode of “fight or flight.” All the yelling or punishment in the world as a reaction to her anger and use of profanities won’t do one bit of good except to make that “fight or flight” worse. If you don’t work on securing her attachment to you, your relationship with her as she ages will get worse and will also directly affect how she lives her life as an adult. While you’re committing to work on your relationship with her, I encourage you do the following things. Wait for a time when all the kids are in a great mood and call everyone together (you should be having family meetings anyway). Announce calmly that inappropriate language will not be accepted in the home. Be sure and make this announcement to everyone, not just the child who is using it, and BE CALM ABOUT IT. You should also tell them that when they fight and use inappropriate language with each other, you will calmly separate them until all involved have calmed down. You might have difficulty in seeing this as an adequate response, but getting angry and “correcting” her is like throwing gasoline on a fire. Please know that her reaction to you correcting her is very normal. Instead, follow my guidelines above and let me know how I can help further. Don’t hesitate to write me an email as you implement this plan, to bill@cooperativekids.com. Let me know how it goes.


care on Wednesday, February 22, 2012 8:20 AM
Great article! I think, everything depends on the child and parents... not every child will do this... unfortunately, I was not an exception(
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writer jobs on Tuesday, March 20, 2012 9:43 AM
All the siblings I know were arguing and even fighting in childhood. Anyway, I was sure, that my sons won't do that. As you might guess, I was wrong. I wonder, may be it is normal for them?
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